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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Murasaki on Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:32 pm

NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

This seems reasonable and it does sound like it’s quite common now. I can see the convenience of telling people that way if they’re not directly related or close, but not siblings/offspring/parents.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Kizzie on Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:54 pm

Murasaki wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

This seems reasonable and it does sound like it’s quite common now.  I can see the convenience of telling people that way if they’re not directly related or close, but not siblings/offspring/parents.  

When my sister died. I was there, the hospice called her husband, I called one of her children who then called their siblings, I also called a cousin who rang the rest of the cousins and Auties etc Everyone normally rings those they know but it's dying out now.

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Murasaki on Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:12 pm

Kizzie wrote:
Murasaki wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

This seems reasonable and it does sound like it’s quite common now.  I can see the convenience of telling people that way if they’re not directly related or close, but not siblings/offspring/parents.  

When my sister died. I was there,  the hospice called her husband, I called one of her children who then called their siblings, I also called a cousin who rang the rest of the cousins and Auties etc   Everyone normally rings those they know but it's dying out now.  


Technology has changed a lot of how we communicate in a very short time. Especially texting and the net.
Have to admit, when my dad died I didn’t want to see or speak to people much except immediate family, so friends would text me daily for weeks to check in on me, it was comforting without being emotionally overwhelming. I think the intent behind the communication, however it’s made, comes through.
But it will be a shame if there’s no face to face contact at all to comfort people who are grieving. Human contact during major life changing moments is crucial.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:55 pm

NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

What age were you when your brother died Nicks?
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:11 pm

This bothers me a bit - probably because I have boys. The boy charged with Murder is 16.

He's a baby. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by NN on Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:57 pm

Claire wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

What age were you when your brother died Nicks?

I’d just turned 24. He was 21.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by MG on Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:48 pm

Claire wrote:This bothers me a bit - probably because I have boys. The boy charged with Murder is 16.

He's a baby. Crying or Very sad
I was thinking about him being a child too. Of course we have no idea of motivation or anything else right now or even if he did murder her but it's so sad for both.

Isn't the law different in Scotland where he can be tried as an adult?
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:26 am

NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

What age were you when your brother died Nicks?

I’d just turned 24. He was 21.

You all must have been devastated. Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:29 am

MG wrote:
Claire wrote:This bothers me a bit - probably because I have boys. The boy charged with Murder is 16.

He's a baby. Crying or Very sad
I was thinking about him being a child too. Of course we have no idea of motivation or anything else right now or even if he did murder her but it's so sad for both.

Isn't the law different in Scotland where he can be tried as an adult?

The age of criminal responsibility in Scotland is 12 now. In the rUK it's 10. Jamie Bulgers killers were tried as adults.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Candice B Fureal on Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:45 pm

The sixteen year old appeared in court today charged with Alesha's rape and murder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44738881

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Aqua on Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:00 pm

Bless her heart, the poor darling. To be raped and murdered bless her. There just aren't words to express how upsetting this is. Thoughts are with her family at this time. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by NN on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:00 pm

Gosh that is awful. I can’t even comprehend it. shake head
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by NN on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:02 pm

Claire wrote:
NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

What age were you when your brother died Nicks?

I’d just turned 24. He was 21.

You all must have been devastated. Evil or Very Mad

It was awful. A huge shock. I mean, we knew he had cancer but he was almost through it. Hardest period of my life, I think it completely changed me. Down to my very core.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:33 am

NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
NN wrote:When my brother died the big announcement was on Facebook. Direct family knew. Those who were there and went through it with us.
Everyone else found out on Facebook.

My parents were devestated. My dad just sat on his chair in silence, staring at the wall. My mum was a mess. We couldn’t go hunting out numbers to ring everyone individually and repeat the same thing.
I think in time gonw by you has the option of sitting on your news for a while and telling people when you are ready to. These days it’s a race against it leaking on Facebook.

What age were you when your brother died Nicks?

I’d just turned 24. He was 21.

You all must have been devastated. Evil or Very Mad

It was awful. A huge shock. I mean, we knew he had cancer but he was almost through it. Hardest period of my life, I think it completely changed me. Down to my very core.

It would change anyone. My brother died suddenly of pneumonia and my Dad is still grieving for him in his delirium.
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by MG on Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:33 pm

Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.
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Post by Claire on Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:02 pm

MG wrote:Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.

I still can't get over the fact he's only 16. Crying or Very sad
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by NN on Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:56 pm

Claire wrote:
MG wrote:Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.

I still can't get over the fact he's only 16. Crying or Very sad

What the fuck possesses a boy that young to do something so fucking horrible.
It’s maddening
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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Aqua on Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:56 pm

NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
MG wrote:Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.

I still can't get over the fact he's only 16. Crying or Very sad

What the fuck possesses a boy that young to do something so fucking horrible.
It’s maddening


The fact that the news is saying it is a friend of the family makes it even worse Crying or Very sad

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Murasaki on Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:10 am

Aqua wrote:
NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
MG wrote:Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.

I still can't get over the fact he's only 16. Crying or Very sad

What the fuck possesses a boy that young to do something so fucking horrible.
It’s maddening


The fact that the news is saying it is a friend of the family makes it even worse Crying or Very sad

Often these types of crimes are by people known to the victim.
That poor innocent girl!
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Post by Candice B Fureal on Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:15 am

There's going to be a vigil for Alesha on Friday night in Airdrie.

It's going to be held in West End Park.

It was mentioned in the local paper that comes out every Wednesday.

It also said some folk might be charged with Contempt of Court for naming the sixteen year old on social media.

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Claire on Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:30 pm

NN wrote:
Claire wrote:
MG wrote:Thanks Claire, think I'm getting muddled with a different law.

Oh so it was a sexual crime, I had feared that was motive, oh god how awful.

I still can't get over the fact he's only 16. Crying or Very sad

What the fuck possesses a boy that young to do something so fucking horrible.
It’s maddening

Upbringing? It's the nature/nurture debate.

Have any of you read "We need to talk about Kevin"? It was also a film.

It took me a long time to get over that book.
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Post by Candice B Fureal on Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:20 am

Wee Alesha's funeral takes place on Saturday in Coatbridge.

The service starts at 11am in the funeral directors in Muiryhall Street.

Everyone is being asked to wear pink.

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Re: Alesha MacPhail.

Post by Candice B Fureal on Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:04 am



Wee Alesha's funeral took place in Coatbridge yesterday.

Hundreds of locals lined the streets to pay their respects to the tragic six year old, who was murdered a few weeks ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5976689/Funeral-held-six-year-old-Alesha-MacPhail.html

It's Coatbridge i live in, but i didn't go.

I would have found it too upsetting.

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Post by xtras on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:07 am

I find it to upsetting to read.

May she rest in peace .. god bless you x
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